In last week's Ladder Challenge it was local marathon legend Johnny Kelley holding off the challenge of Red Sox slugger Jimmie Foxx to remain at #55 on The RBSF Ladder. This week's Challenge feautres 3-time Super Bowl champion Richard Seymour of the Pats challenging 8-time Gold Glove outfielder Dwight Evans of the Sox. My vote is for Dewey (he is, after all, my favorite Boston athlete of all-time)....who has your support this week?
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DWIGHT EVANS
Currently Ranked: 50
Challenge Record: 0-0-0
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*Played for the Red Sox for 19 seasons (1972-90)
*Helped Red Sox win 2 A.L. Pennants (1975, 1986)
*Won 8 Gold Gloves
*Named AL All Star 3-times
*Named to 2 Silver Slugger teams
*Led league in: Walks (3x), OPS (2x), Runs (1x), Total Bases (1x), HR (1) and OBP (1x)
*Top 5 in franchise history in: Games (2nd), At Bats (2nd), Runs (3rd), Doubles (3rd), Walks (3rd), Home Runs (4th), RBI (4th), Hits (4th), Total Bases (4th)
*Red Sox totals: .272 Avg, 379 HR, 1,346 RBI in 2,505 games
*In 2 World Series he hit .300 with 3 HR and 14 RBI in 14 games. Also made one of the greatest catches in World Series history in 1975 to rob Joe MOrgan of the Reds.
RICHARD SEYMOUR
Currently Ranked: 51
Challenge Record: 0-0-0
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*Has played for Pats his entire 8-year career (2001-08)
*Helped Pats win 3 Super Bowls (2001, 2003, 2004)
*Also helped Pats win the AFC Championship in 2007
*Named 1st Team All Pro 3-times, 2nd Team All-Pro once
*Named to AFC Pro Bowl team 5-times
*Member of only 16-0 regular season team in NFL history (2007)
*Career total: 39 sacks, 6 fumble recoveries, 3 forced fumbles, 1 TD
To be perfectly honest when I lay it down on paper Seymour is pretty tough to pass up here: 3 rings, 4 All Pro teams, 5 Pro Bowls and his entire career in New England. He has the potential to go down as one of the NFL's all-time greatest defensive lineman and a potential Hall of Fame player.
My voting on this one is admittedly irrational. Dewey was my favorite player ever and it will take something more lopsided than this for me to vote against him.
So I recommend that others vote for Big Sey here (also a fav of mine) but I'm sticking with Dewey!
I'm gonna go with Seymour on this one.
This is another tough one for me. But its only a 1 spot move so i'm ok with Dewey moving down one.
My heart says Dewey, but my mind says Seymour. I would say that when you laid out Dewey's stats they were pretty impressive. Good to have a reminder; though I idolized him as a youngster it is nice to see all of the on-field accomplishments put out there consecutively.
Still, I'm gonna vote Seymour here. I still like Dewey as much as any other Boston athlete (and more than Big Sey) but Rich Seymour is just to big a part of our team's recent success, which is still, but becoming less, recent.
Big Sey by a hair.
DK one thing about the Ladder.
(this is not an attack, I realize I go after you about the challenges a lot but this is actually something I just noticed)
Where is Mike Greenwell?
the other 80's Sox are well represented, and high on the ladder at that, and at least when I was growing up it was Boggs & Greenwell, with Clemens too of course, in a different category being a pitcher.
Troy Brown, Theo Epstein category? Can he get on the ballot to crack?
*I also knows he's not as good as Boggs or Clemens by the way, but he was in essence a member of that '80's Sox Big 3
Dewey. Guy stayed with the SOX through some awful fuckin years...Seymour, although super impressive was on the Pats during their best years.
Where is Mike Greenwell?
My guess would be pumping gas in Florida.
I need to come out of my anti-baseball mindset for a minute for this argument. Dwight Evans is one of the most underrated athletes ever. He should be in the HOF if Rice is in there (By the way, I don't think either guy should be in there).
Evans was better over a longer period of time. Here is a great stat that I bet most people don't know.
Who hit more home runs in the American League in the 80s than any other player? Not Jim Rice....#24.
Here are some other Dewy stats from the 80's for all of MLB
3rd in runs
10th in hits
4th in HR
4th in RBI
5th in TB
2nd in BB
7th in SLG
8th in OBP
6th in OPS
6th in Total Average
2nd in Runs Created
add all of that to 8 gold gloves and you have a pretty impressive resume over a substantial period of time.
i was going to vote big sey but joe just convinced me to go dewey. i had no idea he ranked that high on any of those lists nevermind all of them. and though it is just 1 spot it is the difference between top 50 and not top 50 so that does matter a little
So far it's 4-2 Dewey in the tie-breaker (if it comes to that)
I've decided the fairest way to pick Ladder Challenges is to use a random number generator determine how many spots the challenger can move up in the week (1-10...unless they are already in the Top 10). This will also make for total random matches in the challenges, which may be fun.
For next week the magic # is 6....so the challenger will challenge the person 6 spots ahead of them. This means the potential challenges are....
* Dennis Johnson vs Walter Brown
* David Ortiz vs Tris Speaker
* Bill Rodgers vs Terry O'Reilly
* Gerry Cheevers vs G. Cappelletti
* Ed Macauley vs Jim Rice
* Bobby Doerr vs Manny Ramirez
* Ty Law vs Dennis Johnson
* Cy Young vs David Ortiz
* Joe Cronin vs Bill Rodgers
i like the random pick going forward. looks like it will be ortiz/speaker. tie break may be needed this week since it is 18/18 at the moment
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