In last week's edition of the Ladder Challenge it was Red Sox legend Carl Yastrzemski knocking off the Brockton Blockbuster Rocky Marciano to climb up The RBSF Ladder from #14 to #6. This week it is a battle of two of Boston's all-time greats as Patriots superstar Tom Brady (#5) atttempts to knock off Bruins great Bobby Orr (#2). My vote goes to #4 Bobby Orr. Which of these Boston sports greats will get your vote?
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#2 BOBBY ORR.....
Played 10 seasons (1966-76) with Bruins
Won 2 Stanley Cups (1970, 1972)
Won Calder Trophy (Rookie of the Year) in 1967.
Won Norris Trophy (Best Defenseman) 8 times (1968-75).
Won Hart Trophy (MVP) 3 times (1970-72).
Won Conn Smythe Trophy (Playoff MVP) 2 times (1970, ’72).
Won Art Ross Trophy (Scoring Title) 2 times (1970, ’75).
Only player to win 4 major awards (Norris, Art Ross, Hart and Conn Smythe) in the same year (1970).
Played in 7 All Star games.
Sports Illustrated’s Sportsman of the Year in 1970.
Named 1st Team All-NHL 8 times (1968-75).
Named 2nd Team All-NHL in 1967.
Bruins career totals: 631 games, 264 goals, 624 assists, 888 points, +591.
Bruins playoff totals: 74 games, 26 goals, 66 assists, 92 points.
Led league in: Assists (5x), Assists per Game (6x), Points (2x), Points per Game (1x), Power Play Goals (2x), Plus/Minus (6x), Shots on Goal (2x).
Bruins career rank: Goals (8), Assists (3), Assists per Game (1), Points (5), Points per Game (2), Power Play Goals (4), +/- (1), Short Handed Goals (6), Shots on Goal (3).
Bruins Single-Season Records: Assists (102, 1971), Assists per Game (1.31, 1971), Plus/Minus (124, 1971).
NHL Records: Most point in one season by a defenseman (139, 1971), Most assists in one season by a defenseman (102, 1971), Highest +/- for a season (124, 1971), tied for most assists in a game by a defenseman (6).
Voted 2nd Greatest Hockey Player of All-Time by The Sporting News in 1997.
Elected to Hockey Hall of Fame in 1979.
His #4 is retired by the Boston Bruins.
#5 TOM BRADY....
Has played entire 9-year career (2000-08) with the Patriots.
Won 3 Super Bowls (2001, 2003, 2004).
Won 2 Super Bowl MVP Awards (2001, 2003).
Selected to 4 Pro Bowls.
Named All Pro 2 times.
2007 NFL MVP.
2007 NFL Player of the Year.
2007 NFL Offensive Player of the Year.
2007 AP Male Athlete of the Year.
2-time Sporting News Sportsman of the Year (2004, 2007).
Sports Illustrated Sportsman of the Year (2005).
Led Pats to only 16-0 season in NFL history (2007).
Career totals: 86-24 record; 2301-3653 (63.0%), 26,446 yards, 197 TD, 86 INT, 92.9 QB Rating.
Career playoff totals: 14-3 record; 372-595 (62.5%), 3,954 yards, 26 TD, 12 INT, 88.0 QB Rating.
Led league in: Passing Yards (2x), Passing TD (2x), QB Rating (1x), Passing Yards per Game (1x), Passing Yards per Attempt (1x), Completion % (1x), TD % (1x).
Franchise career ranks (for QB): Games (3), Wins (1), Completions (2), Attempts (2), Completion % (1), Yards (3), TD (1), QB Rating (1).
Franchise Single-Season records: Wins (16, 2007), Completion % (68.9, 2007), Yards (4,806, 2007), TD Passes (50, 2007), TD % (8.7, 2007), QB Rating (117.2, 2007).
NFL Records: Most TD passes in a season (50, 2007), Highest TD/Interception differential (+42, 2007), Most consecutive post-season win for a QB (10), Most completions in a Super Bowl (32, SB XXXVIII), Most career Super Bowl completions (100), Highest playoff completion % for a single game (92.9%, 26/28, vs Jax in 2007).
That is all a bit harder to read than I was hoping....
In any case, Orr still gets my vote despite Brady's amazing credentials. Brady still has a bit of playing left him (hopefully) though, so perhaps this battle will be re-visited at some point.
I vote for Bobby Orr mostly because how much he has represented the Bruins and the city of Boston after retiring. I cannot say the same for Brady. Additionally, when talking to my dad, I am constantly reminded that Orr literally changed the game of hockey and how defensemen were viewed. The Paul Coffey/Ray Bourque mold would not have flourished if not for Orr. I love Brady...but Orr is a better Boston Sports figure
As JBS said Orr revolutionized his position. Look at a 10 lists of the greatest defensemen of all time, if i was a betting man i'd put money on it that Orr would be #1 on all 10 lists. Now look at 10 lists of greatest QBs of all time and i'd be willing to bet Brady might be #1 on 6 of them. Not to mention that Orr is considered by some to be the greatest player of all time. Both of these guys deseve to be mentioned with the greatest of all time and not just on RBSF but on ANY list.
#4 for me.
And lets hope Brady's playing career is not cut short by injuries as Orr's was.
Excellent points gmac.
To be honest Brady isn't even #1 on my all-time QB list. Not yet at least. My vote goes to Montana.
As far as NHL defensemen are concerned the only debate is "Who's #2"?
Orr was also voted #1 Boston athlete of all time in a Boston Globe poll of fans....though I'm not sure when that poll was taken.
It will be interesting to see who comes out on top in an Orr/Russell battle.
Voting is kind of a blow out here. I wonder if it would have been closer if:
1. Brady played in '08 and played well.
or
2. The Pats totally self-destructed without him.
as you may be able to tell from my name i would vote for orr over anybody. i wish he won in the poll this week so he could have gotten a crack at russell
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